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Quick Standings:

Pos	Participant	Points
1	Doug Santo	743
2	Slater Sn	673
3	EL SLATSO	621
4	Croken	617
5	V Power	613
6	lightsOUT	595
7	RyanS	586
8	Arun	579.5
9	Martin, Aston Martin	573
10	Indocti Discant	535
11	David D	525
12	Vwown3d	524
13	Jody Scheckter	517.5
14	Lisa	494
15	sperry	490.5
16	e^n	486
17	Jodecy	480.5
18	delongedoug	473
19	curley	401

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Upcoming Rounds:

Round 15:

Russia 25 Sep 2021, 5:00 AM PDT

Round 16:

Turkey

Round 17:

United States

Round 18:

Mexico

Round 19:

Brazil

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Discussion Archive:

by Jody Scheckter at 4:11 pm, Sep 12 @David D, yup. Just applied.

by David D at 1:33 pm, Sep 12 The points from Sprint Quali will be counted, correct?

by Jody Scheckter at 1:23 am, Sep 12 @Indocti Discant, you and 12 others. GAS has also let a lot of us down. I'm not sold on these Sprint Races.

by Indocti Discant at 7:52 am, Sep 11 D'oh HAM. Totally thought he'd take P1 at this sprint.

by sperry at 2:43 pm, Sep 4 Ha, @Indocti Discant, you were actually the only person that picked RAI this race! But with the short notice and inability to pick KUB, I have updated your pick.

by Indocti Discant at 7:53 am, Sep 4 Can we get a swap for RAI to KUB?

edited by Jody Scheckter at 4:27 pm, Aug 29 Make note: a revised schedule of events has been announced.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/artic...

The FF1 schedule has been updated with the latest information, but there is still uncertainty. Stay tuned.

by Jody Scheckter at 10:51 pm, Aug 19 The Japanese Grand Prix has been cancelled. Last month is was announced that the Australian Grand Prix had been cancelled. Both races remain listed as the round itself may yet be raced at an alternate track yet to be determined.

The ongoing uncertainty this season will make it harder to know just how many races will ultimately be run, and that will surely have an effect on picks.

Just another wrinkle in this year's season.

The schedule will be updated as things are known.

by Jody Scheckter at 11:26 pm, Aug 1 It definitely was an interesting race on so many levels.

I've updated the result, but it is possible that they might win the appeal. I'd love the extra 13 points if that happens.

by David D at 1:42 pm, Aug 1 What a race Hungary was! Wow! I'm an Alonso fanboy, and I was so happy to see him leading for a couple of laps before he pitted around lap 38.

Vettel has been disqualified by the way. Gutted for him. Not enough fuel left in the car for a sample. Points need updating!

edited by Jody Scheckter at 9:57 pm, Jul 18 Would have liked to have seen Hamilton and Verstappen racing against each other for more than half a lap. Both were being super aggressive, so I think both were to blame for the accident, but it was a great shame and reminiscent of front runner clashes in years gone by.

edited by Jody Scheckter at 10:19 pm, Jul 8 The following video explains how the new sprint qualifying will work and fit into the race weekend.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video...

I think sperry mentioned back in March that the sprint qualifying would be 30 minutes, and that the top ten would be reversed on the grid, but those ideas have evidently been dropped.

I'm curious what people think of this. There is a chance that the Friday qualifying will be a good predictor of the sprint qualifying positions, in the same way usual qualifying often determines a race outcome.

Then again, maybe not, as cars will not be so well setup by Friday qualifying, and will have an opportunity to make significant adjustments before sprint qualifying.

One thing is for sure, the term "qualifying" itself for the Friday session is already confusing, when there are now two qualifying sessions in a race weekend.

One last note: we will be applying the points scored in the sprint race to the final result.

by Jody Scheckter at 5:39 pm, Jun 25 Turkey has been added back for Round 16, this time replacing Singapore. Qualifying time has been set here based on last year's, but when things become official it will be updated.

edited by Jody Scheckter at 4:38 pm, Jun 5 I have corrected the time for Baku qualifying (too late I know), and verified all upcoming times are correct. Unless anyone complains, I think we'll stick with the situation as it stands - honor rules that nobody picked knowing the results of qualifying.

Due to the multiple red flags, by the time picks did close Q2 was only just ending.

by Jody Scheckter at 4:22 pm, Jun 5 Grrr... did anyone actually make their picks after quali started?

by Vwown3d at 5:55 am, Jun 5 Qualy is currently on and the picks are still open?

by Jody Scheckter at 10:34 am, May 17 Well, Turkey has been cancelled and now we'll have 2 Austrian GPs. The French GP will happen a week earlier and the new Styrian GP will be the following week. The changes will be made here shortly.

edited by Jody Scheckter at 4:29 pm, Sep 12 Just when the race was looking good for Lewis Hamilton it turned into a disaster.

Choosing a different tire strategy was starting to pay dividends for Hamilton at the mid-race point as the drivers ahead of him started to pit, but then it all went wrong as Hamilton and Max Verstappen tried to drive through the same part of the first corner and took each other out.

Daniel Ricciardo was the beneficiary, as he led from start to finish, with Lando Norris coming second to give McLaren a deserved 1-2 victory at Monza. Valtteri Bottas, starting last on the grid, managed a remarkable third.

Croken wins the round, Arun is second and David D comes third, but there is no change at the top in the overall FF1 standing, although Doug Santo's lead has been reduced to 70 points when once he was comfortably ahead by over 100.

The next race in Russia is in two weeks.

by sperry at 6:09 pm, Apr 28 Round two sparked controversy about the incident between Botas and Russel, as they tangled down the DRS straight in what should have been a pretty easy pass, had the drying conditions not made every venture off-line risky. Verstappen takes the win over Hamilton, raising hopes that 2021 might not be all Mercedes, all the time.

Doug Santo and Slater Sn tie for the win this round with 77 points, jumping them to the top of the overall standings in 1st and 2nd. EL SLATSO rounds out the fantasy podium with 62 points, moving up to 4th.

The news is out that Round 7 in Canada will be replaced by Turkey due to COVID travel restrictions. But first, Round 3 in Portugal is up next!

by sperry at 6:01 pm, Apr 28 I just updated the schedule for Turkey, but I don't know the actual Qually start time yet since the F1 website still lists Canada. I'll update that when it's known, unless Jody Scheckter beats me to it!

by Jody Scheckter at 5:59 pm, Apr 28 Was just about to say.

by sperry at 5:57 pm, Apr 28 Looks like Canada is out, and Turkey is in.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/artic...

by Jody Scheckter at 10:40 pm, Apr 21 @RyanS, you can read @sperry's comments about that in the discussion archives: https://ff1.seccs.org/index.php?page=arc...

by RyanS at 2:24 pm, Apr 20 So what's gonna go on with with the sprint races in this pool?

by Jody Scheckter at 11:05 pm, Apr 19 I'll adjust the results.

by EL SLATSO at 7:08 pm, Apr 19 Gasly also got 7th over Stroll because of an illegal overtake

by David D at 9:34 pm, Apr 18 Hi guys, Raikkonen got penalized and finished P13, bumping Ocon to 9th and Alonso to 10th.

by Jody Scheckter at 11:00 pm, Apr 17 Given qualifying at Imola, we might be in for a very competitive season, making picking all the harder, but perhaps meaning that more drivers could score points.

by Indocti Discant at 6:52 pm, Apr 17 grr. I hate missing picks.

by Jody Scheckter at 6:29 pm, Apr 17 The picks are very interesting!

edited by Jody Scheckter at 9:44 pm, Apr 13 Heads up: Qualifying for the Emilia Romagna GP will now start at 2pm CET (1pm BST), one hour earlier than previously scheduled. The deadline has been adjusted accordingly.

by sperry at 4:03 pm, Mar 31 Round one under the lights in Bahrain is complete! Hamilton is able to eek out a win after a brilliant drive by Verstappen to take the lead is stymied by running outside track limits forcing him to return the spot.

In fantasy competition, Arun is nearly perfect, picking 6 of the top 7 and missing only 4th place. e^n and V Power round out the podium. Big points in the first round, but with the 8-pick limit per driver agreed upon this season, will the use of so many big-names come back to haunt them in the latter half of the season?

Round two takes place in Imola in three weeks!

by sperry at 3:57 pm, Mar 31 Okay folks, it sounds like there's a decent consensus that we should stick with the original 8 picks per driver per season. So I have reverted the rules back to that limit.

So folks, remember to be judicial with your picks, and use your drops wisely!

by Vwown3d at 8:05 am, Mar 30 I vote for keeping it at 8...it should keep the scoring lower and challenge people to really think/plan their picks for the entire season. It could also come in to play if some races get canceled due to covid disasters.

by sperry at 3:13 pm, Mar 29 Seems like the consensus is definitely shifting back towards the original 6x8 season! Y'all are hard-core!

by delongedoug at 10:14 am, Mar 29 I prefer the difficulty in choosing the lower points finishers vs being able to do more brainless HAMBOTVERs. I vote nay.

edited by Croken at 7:19 am, Mar 29 Just to throw my vote in, I like 8 races per driver. That is how many I thought it was to begin with and I do like the idea of making it slightly more challenging. Makes 10th place and fastest laps that much more important come on the end.

Either way just happy the pool is back!

by Jody Scheckter at 8:01 pm, Mar 28 I accept whatever decision is made. If we want folks to be engaged, we do need some amount of difficulty, otherwise you get too many people making all their picks up front, regardless of any up to the minute news.

I should also note that my best overall result came in 2016, so I have a bias.

edited by sperry at 5:55 pm, Mar 28 Okay, this discussion about the max-picks has me intrigued a little, so I made a spreadsheet with all previous seasons:

R	Number of Rounds					
P	Picks-per-Race					
M	Max Picks-per-Driver					
D	Drops					
Difficulty Rating: ((R � D) * P) / M						
						
Year	R	P	M	D	Rating	Notes
2021	23	6	10	2	12.600	
2020	17	3	17	0	3.000	COVID
2019	21	5	8	2	11.875	
2018	21	6	9	3	12.000	extra drop due to deadline error
2017	20	6	9	2	12.000	
2016	21	5	7	2	13.571	
2015	19	5	10	1	9.000	
2014	19	5	8	1	11.250	
2013	19	5	10	1	9.000	
2012	20	5	10	1	9.500	
2011	19	5	10	1	9.000	
2010	19	5	10	0	9.500	
2009	17	8	8	0	17.000	only top 8 score
2008	18	8	8	0	18.000	only top 8 score
2007	17	8	8	0	17.000	only top 8 score
2006	18	8	8	4	14.000	only top 8 score

Looks like this season's 6x10 format would be the second most difficult season since they started scoring points for the top 10. Only the 5x7 in 2016 was "harder". Granted, this doesn't take into account the nuances of the specific teams and drivers, it's at least some data to make a decision on.

I prefer 6x10, in the interest of keeping more people engaged for longer into the season. 6x8 would have a 15.75 rating, the "hardest" we've ever done since the 2010 scoring format. IMO, this league shouldn't be super hard-core where people have to be up on all the latest news on say, whether or not a Haas tire changer's girlfriend dumped him in order to score one point in round 22

. But if you folks want fewer picks, I'm happy to oblige. At this point I've had about an equal number of people asking to move to 10 as to go back to 8. I don't have a strong preference, over just trying to have as many people enjoy the season as possible.

If there's a strong consensus over the next few days to go back to 6x8, I will switch it back, but I don't want to dwell on this for too long, and will leave it at 6x10 on behalf of the less hard-core participants that may not be checking the chat here to voice their opinions.

Hopefully everyone will find that fair.

by EL SLATSO at 10:42 am, Mar 28 I vote nay to increasing the number of times you can pick a driver. Being forced to pick the lower drivers more makes the pool more challenging.

by Indocti Discant at 10:35 am, Mar 28 I'm ok with is, since the negatives of the change barely impact us (1/23 races) and it should be even itself out over the following 22. I vote yay for increasing to 10 picks.

by Jody Scheckter at 10:18 pm, Mar 27 Well, I think some of us made the picks we made, or didn't pick, because we knew we only had 8 picks. Changing that now changes the equation. Either way, if you're all picking backmarkers at the end of the season, that works for me, as it doesn't matter what position you're in until after the season is over! ;^)

by sperry at 5:37 pm, Mar 27 Based on some feedback I've had from a few folks, I'm considering increasing the max picks-per-season from 8 to 10 due to the increased length of the season. The fear is that it won't be much fun at the end of the season when we're all picking backmarkers with no chance at points.

Any objections?

by sperry at 5:19 pm, Mar 27 Sorry for the confusion! All KVY picks have been switched to TSU.

by Jody Scheckter at 4:23 pm, Mar 27 Yes that would be appropriate.

by Indocti Discant at 9:47 am, Mar 27 I think you gotta give the KVY pick (V Power) the TSU pick.

by Jody Scheckter at 8:30 pm, Mar 26 No, Tsunoda has been added now. That was a miss.

by EL SLATSO at 9:14 am, Mar 26 Thanks for organizing this great pool again this year! Just curious if Kyvat =Tsunoda as far as picks go?

by David D at 5:44 pm, Mar 22 Happy to be back after my absence in 2020!

by Jody Scheckter at 8:19 pm, Mar 21 Woohoo! Let's go racing!

edited by sperry at 7:56 pm, Mar 27 Welcome to the 2021 Fantasy F1 Season!

Hopefully we're going to get the real-deal this year, with the pandemic situation apparently sorted out well enough that we'll be able to have all the planned races.

Also this season, as I'm reminded by Jody Scheckter, F1 will be running "Sprint Qualifying" sessions at three races this season (British GP, Italian GP, and Canada or Brazil are rumored to be the events). "Sprint Qualifying" will be a 30 min sprint race on Saturday that will score 3, 2, and 1 points for the top three finishers, while the top 10 finishers will be inverted to set the F1 race on Sunday. For our purposes, the picks deadline will remain the start of the new Sprint Qualifying session, which means at these three races you will be able to know the Friday practice results that will set the grid for the Sprint Qualifying session before picks are due!

The intention is to include the 3/2/1 qually bonus points, like we include the +1 fast lap bonus, in the points you can score by selecting the correct driver. So, keep that in mind over the course of the season... as you may want to save specific drivers for those bonus points.

Finally, we're doing a pick-6 format this year with 6 drivers selected per round, and a max of 10 picks per driver over the course of the season. Additionally, due to the 23 planned rounds, we will also have two drops this season. So, lots of options for strategies this year!

Good luck to everyone!