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Quick Standings:

Pos	Participant	Points
1	Arun	891
2	curley	886
3	DP#1	872
4	EL SLATSO!!!	868
5	Georgethefierce	851
6	Reno Stack	849
7	Jody Scheckter	824
8	indocti discant	820
9	lightsOUT	818
10	Doug Santo	806
11	Chris S	784
12	Sophia Floersch	780
13	vwown3d (OG dp)	777
14	subasurf	776
15	Jodicious	773
16	afsaenz9	756
17	sperry	724
18	David D	718
19	BrawnGP	708
20	bahgoblin	700
21	mphwang	635
22	paramoric	510
23	Lehman	164

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edited by Jody Scheckter at 11:27 pm, Dec 3 To add to sperry's comments, I'd note that had curley picked NOR and KVY (as Arun, BrawnGP and I did), instead of GRO and RIC, those 6 extra points would have been enough to win the season! The point being that it isn't just how well you pick the top drivers, but also how well you pick the mid-field drivers.

Here are a few more (perhaps interesting) stats from this year:
- Most winners picked: Georgethefierce (12), Doug Santo (11), EL SLATSO!!! (10).
- Most point scoring picks: Jodicious (74), curley (73), Arun and DP#1 (72).
- Most rounds won or tied: lightsOUT (5), subasurf (4), Georgethefierce, Chris S and sperry (3).
- Most rounds with 5 scoring picks: curley (6), Arun, DP#1 and BrawnGP (4).
- Perfect rounds (81 points): lightsOUT (2), Georgethefierce, afsaenz9 and BrawnGP (1).

But potentially the most important stat was...
- Most fastest lap points: Arun, Reno Stack, Jody Scheckter, vwown3d and David D (10).
Note that almost all participants scored at least 7 fastest lap points. The exceptions were: bahgoblin (5), BrawnGP (4), Sophia Floersch, paramoric (3), and Lehman (1)
In the end, this year, it didn't change anything of significance because close as it was at the top the margins were large enough that without the fastest lap points Arun would have still won, but by a mere 2 points. Further down the standings Sophia Floersch would have beat Chris S for 11th by 2 points, and subasurf would have nipped vwown3d for 13th by 1 point. All other positions would have remained the same.

by sperry at 12:14 am, Dec 3 Congratulations to our 2019 Fantasy F1 Champions!

With a late-season charge in a very close field, Arun comes from behind to take the 2019 championship! In a season with more parity at the front that usual, Arun was able to use his drivers at just the right time. It was a final HAM pick reserved for the last round that pushed him to the top over other participants who had exhausted their top drivers before Abu Dhabi. Arun never led the overall season standing until the final round when it means the most. This is Arun's first season in the league, and his first win. For his first place finish, Arun will take home $230. Congrats!

Placing second overall is curley. curley was the dominant force for the second half of the season. A long-time Fantasy F1 participant, curley's strategy of avoiding early over-use of big-name drivers seemed to be on track for a repeat of his 2017 overall win. For lack of a mere 5 points, curley lands in 2nd place, winning $138.

DP#1 is our final podium finisher. Another long-time participant, DP#1 won in 2013 and last season, and has placed in the top 4 since 2016. A rough first half performance came around, peaking at 2nd overall for the latter 1/3 of the season. His risky strategy of an intentional drop at Interlagos to save both Ferrari drivers for Abu Dhabi seemed like a brilliant plan when both Ferrari teammates DNF'd at the penultimate round. But Ferrari has never gone 1-2 in Abu Dhabi, and this season it remained true that Ferrari simply couldn't earn the points DP#1 needed to beat out the haul Arun pulled in at the US GP. DP#1 earns $92 for his 3rd place finish.

A special thank you to Jody Scheckter for his help with league administration. I've been mostly hands-off this season and Jody did a terrific job taking up the slack, including writing the post-race commentary, generating the awesome race standings graphic, as well as maintaining shadow results that were invaluable in double checking the new bonus point scoring code that was needed for the fast-lap bonus this season. Thanks a ton Jody!

With the longer and longer seasons, it's hard to believe, but F1 2020 is just three and a half months away! I hope everyone comes back for another season of Fantasy F1!

by DP#1 at 6:09 am, Nov 19 We're still doing double points for Abu Dhabi, right? :P

by Jody Scheckter at 4:21 pm, Nov 17 That was a mad race after it looked like it was going to be relatively mundane. If DP#1 wasn't making a tactical decision to skip the round it couldn't have played out much better for him given the result.

edited by sperry at 3:52 pm, Nov 16 Based on feedback from multiple participants we will not be accepting picks that were attempted to be made during the hour before qualifying while the round was unintentionally live. As there is no way now to confirm those picks would have been made without prior knowledge of the qualifying results, it would be more unfair for those who made picks before the deadline to not have the same possible advantage, than it is unfair for those who intended to make picks at the last minute while unaware of the early deadline.

Additionally, very few people were logged in during the hour after the round went live, so there could not have been many folks that were caught out by the early deadline, implying that most people were satisfied with their picks prior to the round going live. And while the deadline was in error, it has been public since the start of the season. Also, the round drops are specifically intended to assist in situations where picks are not made.

Apologies to the folks that were caught out by this situation. I generally want to err on side of allowing folks the broadest opportunity to participate, but in this case I agree with the feedback I've received that the most fair course is to respect the early deadline.

by sperry at 1:05 pm, Nov 16 Sorry David, it looks like I made a typo back when entering the qually start times at the beginning of the season and put in a start time of 14:00 local time, rather than 15:00. That does mean that the deadline has been public for the entire season and the countdown and all the warning emails have been accurate to the early deadline.

If anyone missed making picks this round due to the incorrect deadline, please post the picks you would have made as a comment ASAP, or email me at administrator@seccs.org. We can try to sort out a fair resolution, and apply them if no one has a problem with it. On the other hand, missing a deadline (even if it's my fault for entering it an hour early) is the reason we have drops, to lessen the impact of missing a round. Remember, if you skip making picks, you will have those drivers available for Abu Dhabi.

If anyone has an issue with picks being accepted late, please mention it in a comment, or email me privately. I would like to be able to accept everyone's picks, but not to the disadvantage of the people that made theirs prior to the early deadline.

Sorry to everyone for the confusion.

by David D at 9:33 am, Nov 16 There is still a half hour left until quali... why are the picks already closed...

by DP#1 at 5:01 am, Oct 28 Fucking, fucking Verstappen. What a fucking idiot!

That's 2 VER picks in a row for a total of 8pts. He's his own worst enemy.

edited by Jody Scheckter at 11:58 pm, Oct 27 Perhaps the fewest points earned by participants on Mercedes cars here in a long time with only 3 picks of each in total. Clearly few of us wanted to take the risk of playing Hamilton or Bottas in Mexico - and 12 of us were burned by Verstappen's eventually awful weekend.

by Jody Scheckter at 1:22 am, Oct 24 Never a dull day - The revised results have been applied.

by DP#1 at 3:52 pm, Oct 23 Renault disqualified from Japanese GP, RIC's 6th and HUL's 10th erased.

by Jody Scheckter at 8:33 pm, Oct 18 The chart has been reconciled and corrected.

by sperry at 3:08 am, Oct 18 FYI: the site has been updated to account for the fast lap bonus point!

Results have been recalculated and updated. There is a chance of an issue in the new code, of course, so please let me know if you see any issues with the new results.

I know already there's a discrepancy for 17th place vs. the line chart Jody Scheckter has been maintaining. So that's being looked into. Please flag any other issues for us to investigate.

by Jody Scheckter at 11:19 pm, Oct 10 I think it is simplest to continue to require picks be made by the original qualifying cut-off time. As there will be no running on Saturday there is no benefit in waiting the extra 19 hours until the new scheduled time for qualifying.

by vwown3d (OG dp) at 6:25 pm, Oct 10 Looks like quail is being pushed back.

edited by Jody Scheckter at 5:20 pm, Sep 7 Alain Prost famously said, "I always say that my ideal is to get pole with the minimum effort, and to win the race at the slowest speed possible." Unfortunately, it seemed that's what Monza qualifying turned into today. What a farce! I hope they find a solution that puts an end to this kind of thing once and for all.

by sperry at 9:21 am, Aug 24 Driver points stay with the driver, even if they change teams. That's also true in F1, if I'm not mistaken.

edited by Jody Scheckter at 12:03 am, Aug 14 That's a question for sperry to provide a definitive answer to, but I believe the driver picks will transfer - it is still 8 picks per driver. A similar thing happened in 2016 when Verstappen was promoted and Kvyat was demoted within the Red Bull teams.

We'll make the team adjustments here within the next few days.

by David D at 10:18 am, Aug 13 So now that Gasly and Albon have switched seats, how will this play out in this league? Will the number of times we selected both drivers transfer over to their new respective teams?

by Jody Scheckter at 11:29 pm, Jul 30 I've updated things to reflect the change. Reno Stack jumps into a podium position in the standings as a consequence.

by vwown3d (OG dp) at 5:01 am, Jul 29 Kub +1!!!!! Looks like the scoring has changed a bit.

by Jody Scheckter at 12:55 am, Jul 29 Nutty race! One moment you think your picks were brilliant, and a few laps later everything changed. A lot of lost points today.

by indocti discant at 7:57 am, Jul 28 I picked the wrong pink panther driver.

by Jody Scheckter at 7:37 pm, Jul 26 DP#1 - I have never seen that behavior.

by DP#1 at 9:19 am, Jul 26 Anyone else have Germany and Hungary picks seemingly automatically generated? I have the same picks for both races already selected but unless I got into a drug and alcohol induced stupor, I would never have entered picks for either race in advance. Just me?

by Jody Scheckter at 4:54 pm, Jun 23 The revised results have been applied.

by DP#1 at 3:10 pm, Jun 23 The results used are preliminary and don't reflect the penalty for RIC.

by DP#1 at 11:50 am, Jun 10 https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlackSpitefulA...

by subasurf at 12:34 pm, Jun 9 The cunts in race control destroy another race.

by subasurf at 6:40 am, May 26 Fucking LeCuck

by Jody Scheckter at 5:22 pm, May 13 Grrrr... I've picked the wrong Mercedes in evry race! What are the odds?

by sperry at 6:44 pm, Mar 30 I haven�t had time to work on the scoring fix. Once it�s ready, it will retroactively apply to all rounds.

by Jody Scheckter at 4:33 pm, Mar 29 Hi Scott - Will the +1 fastest lap point be added in time for race two? if not will it be retroactively added when ready?

by Jody Scheckter at 9:37 pm, Mar 18 It probably would have come off with a less wide wing due to the way the car was bounced nose down on the concrete run-off area between the grass.

by sperry at 10:55 am, Mar 18 I'll say the new wider front wing led to Ricciardo overtaking his own front wing on the front straight.

He was barely on the grass when that thing got torn off!

by Doug Santo at 6:30 am, Mar 18 So much for the new regs leading to more overtaking! or could just be the track? Watching Gasly flounder behind Kvyat was disappointing to say the least.

by sperry at 1:53 am, Mar 18 I thought the +1 for fast lap was a proposal for 2020!

I'll take a look at updating the scoring, since the rules do state that you will get the same points as the drivers you picked. But there are likely to be some complications because our scoring is based on a fixed schedule, and doesn't just grab the points from the official results.

But I've had to solve for both half-points races and double-points races, so I suspect I'll be able to figure this out as well. Once the change is made, I will re-run the results, so for now you'll have to imagine the extra point.

by Jody Scheckter at 12:04 pm, Mar 17 It looks like picking up the fastest lap points from the automated feed is doable, but there are probably other complications.

by vwown3d (OG dp) at 6:12 am, Mar 17 Are we going to add in the bonus point for fastest lap?

by indocti discant at 2:34 pm, Mar 16 Though, I'm reminded that last year MER was this far ahead, and Vet still won.

by sperry at 1:35 am, Mar 16 I almost went all in on Ferrari, thinking their best chance at a win was early on... but decided to pick for a drop instead... I think I made the right choice.

by indocti discant at 12:15 am, Mar 16 oh dear, looks like my pick of the 2 FER vs 2 MER was a poor one.

by sperry at 10:33 pm, Mar 15 I know you�ve had issues in the past. If anyone else is missing emails, let me know. I�ve made some progress with setting up the server to authenticate out-bound mail with our mail sender, but it�s not fully correct and I think some mail clients are blocking messages because they think it�s being spoofed.

edited by Jody Scheckter at 10:28 pm, Mar 15 If it is I have no record of it in my spam folder. If I'm the only one I guess that's fine.

by sperry at 10:23 pm, Mar 15 I got it. I think your spam filter is blocking emails?

by Jody Scheckter at 9:28 pm, Mar 15 Did a notice go out for qualifying? I didn't get a 24 Hour Warning notice.

by Jody Scheckter at 5:06 pm, Mar 14 Damn! I was going to write that if Nick doesn't sign up we're going to miss our early pace setter. Terrible news about Charlie Whiting.

by Doug Santo at 10:04 am, Mar 14 R.I.P. Charlie. You had the toughest job on the grid.

by DP#1 at 1:07 pm, Mar 8 Now that it's March 8th, the Netflix doc on last season 'Drive To Survive' is available to get your gears turning for next weekend!

If not, there's always MotoGP

edited by Jody Scheckter at 6:15 pm, Mar 7 Hello everyone! I'm looking forward to the upcoming season full of unknowns, not the least of which will be figuring out which drivers to pick each round with the new limitations.

Now's the time to convince your friends and family to part with their cash and join the fun!

In the meantime, if you haven't seen it, you might enjoy watching the documentary on Williams at https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002p1x - very interesting and revealing indeed.

edited by Jody Scheckter at 1:02 pm, Dec 1 Welcome to the 2019 F1 Season!

Minor changes in this season's fantasy strategy for those who played last year: we will be choosing only 5 drivers each round, for a max number of 8 picks for each driver over the course of the season. We are also back down to just the normal 2 drops, after last season's 3. Full rules are on the FAQ/Rules page.